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	<title>Comments on: Reminder: A 15 Year Old Girl Was Brutally Gang Raped While Over Twenty Teenagers Watched</title>
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		<title>By: where is your line? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Where the men at?</title>
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		<dc:creator>where is your line? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Where the men at?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the media, Rachel Simmons and Shelby Knox express outrage at how silent the public response has been, most notably the lack of response of the feminist [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for spreading the news further. It&#039;s amazing how callous our youth has become - and all of the people who tweeted, emailed and watched should be punished held  responsible for what happened to the young woman - would they have helped if she was their sister? It would not have been a show to watch then, right, because then it was their &quot;blood&quot;.  And where are the adults at that time? And the parents of those who performed the deed and those who watched, how in the world did they raise their kids to think that a gangbang is entertaining? I thought we were making headway towards ending violence, whether physical, mental or sexual,against our fellowmen - we should rise above just shaking our heads and be proactive! Please help educate our girls that ANY form of disrespect is wrong and should not be tolerated, whether of not done &quot;jokingly&quot;. Let us not be enablers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for spreading the news further. It&#8217;s amazing how callous our youth has become &#8211; and all of the people who tweeted, emailed and watched should be punished held  responsible for what happened to the young woman &#8211; would they have helped if she was their sister? It would not have been a show to watch then, right, because then it was their &#8220;blood&#8221;.  And where are the adults at that time? And the parents of those who performed the deed and those who watched, how in the world did they raise their kids to think that a gangbang is entertaining? I thought we were making headway towards ending violence, whether physical, mental or sexual,against our fellowmen &#8211; we should rise above just shaking our heads and be proactive! Please help educate our girls that ANY form of disrespect is wrong and should not be tolerated, whether of not done &#8220;jokingly&#8221;. Let us not be enablers!</p>
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		<title>By: Deepthinker957</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deepthinker957</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that these young men had no respect for her safety, individuality, well being, or diginity has nothing to do with the consequences of the attack itself. They may be contributing factors to the attack, but these young men knew what they were doing. Further, they knew what they were doing was wrong, as did those who were tweeting, filming, and photographing. 

They walk into court with bullet proof vests on because the police insist on it, and with good reason. Insofar as the bystanders and the offenders, each and every one, I would like to see them get &quot;the book thrown at them&quot;. Full charges as accomplices to the act, charges of illegally recording a sex act, violations of privacy laws, recording pornography, recording and distributing harmful material, and where State laws allow for it, failing to uphold the Samaritan code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that these young men had no respect for her safety, individuality, well being, or diginity has nothing to do with the consequences of the attack itself. They may be contributing factors to the attack, but these young men knew what they were doing. Further, they knew what they were doing was wrong, as did those who were tweeting, filming, and photographing. </p>
<p>They walk into court with bullet proof vests on because the police insist on it, and with good reason. Insofar as the bystanders and the offenders, each and every one, I would like to see them get &#8220;the book thrown at them&#8221;. Full charges as accomplices to the act, charges of illegally recording a sex act, violations of privacy laws, recording pornography, recording and distributing harmful material, and where State laws allow for it, failing to uphold the Samaritan code.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was absolutely appalled when i heard about this. In part because of the lack of media attention and general outrage but mainly because of reports of people who STOOD there and WATCHED and did nothing. That just completely escapes me and i can&#039;t even comprenhend that part. I too was bothered by the reports of the girl being drunk while it happened. While i understand that you must look out for yourself and alcohol makes it difficult to do that, that does not make it okay for rape to occur, ever. I thought we had moved past the thinking that if a rape victim is drunk it&#039;s &quot;okay&quot;. I also thought we had moved forward with our if you see something, say something. I am clearly and sadly mistaken. Thank you for your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was absolutely appalled when i heard about this. In part because of the lack of media attention and general outrage but mainly because of reports of people who STOOD there and WATCHED and did nothing. That just completely escapes me and i can&#8217;t even comprenhend that part. I too was bothered by the reports of the girl being drunk while it happened. While i understand that you must look out for yourself and alcohol makes it difficult to do that, that does not make it okay for rape to occur, ever. I thought we had moved past the thinking that if a rape victim is drunk it&#8217;s &#8220;okay&#8221;. I also thought we had moved forward with our if you see something, say something. I am clearly and sadly mistaken. Thank you for your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People live tweeted about this?  That is just absolutely abhorrent to me, let alone what has happened to this girl. Thank you for posting about this and sharing your views.  I share them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People live tweeted about this?  That is just absolutely abhorrent to me, let alone what has happened to this girl. Thank you for posting about this and sharing your views.  I share them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue D'Onym</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue D'Onym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I really like most of what you have to say here,I have to disagree with your obligatory &quot;what if this had been a white girl, blah blah&quot; point.  My suspicion is that the media is tiptoeing around this because the perps are Latino, &amp; they&#039;re so terrified of being accused of racism that they&#039;re not going near this.  Let&#039;s imagine instead that the perps were white athletes--there would be a media frenzy, no matter what the race of the victim.  

It&#039;s obligatory if you cover this kind of story to write the &quot;why did this happen&quot; piece, and nobody wants to write the piece saying that these particular Latino youths have no moral center, because people of color are inherently noble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I really like most of what you have to say here,I have to disagree with your obligatory &#8220;what if this had been a white girl, blah blah&#8221; point.  My suspicion is that the media is tiptoeing around this because the perps are Latino, &amp; they&#8217;re so terrified of being accused of racism that they&#8217;re not going near this.  Let&#8217;s imagine instead that the perps were white athletes&#8211;there would be a media frenzy, no matter what the race of the victim.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s obligatory if you cover this kind of story to write the &#8220;why did this happen&#8221; piece, and nobody wants to write the piece saying that these particular Latino youths have no moral center, because people of color are inherently noble.</p>
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		<title>By: Spielster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spielster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This case is beyond heart breaking. The story of the complete and utter lack of safety provide by the supposed security professionals from the victims friend terrifies me. I am not sure how CNN seems to be the only mainstream network to be covering this. I feel the conversation where we blame everything else other than the culprits is insane. We are all capable
of terrible things, but it takes a special kind of disgusting individual to look beyond the tears and brutality that was placed upon this girl and still take part. I wish the govt, womens orgs or a Christian org who waste their time on other ridiculous things would stand up and speak out against this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case is beyond heart breaking. The story of the complete and utter lack of safety provide by the supposed security professionals from the victims friend terrifies me. I am not sure how CNN seems to be the only mainstream network to be covering this. I feel the conversation where we blame everything else other than the culprits is insane. We are all capable<br />
of terrible things, but it takes a special kind of disgusting individual to look beyond the tears and brutality that was placed upon this girl and still take part. I wish the govt, womens orgs or a Christian org who waste their time on other ridiculous things would stand up and speak out against this.</p>
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		<title>By: abyss2hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>abyss2hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not part of the MSM but I blogged about this case and the strong foundation for crimes like this on Wed. in a post titled: Contrasting response to Richmond CA beating and gang rape and other reported gang rapes http://bit.ly/1V0vU2

The best news is that many states, including MN where I live are developing primary prevention plans which look at ways to prevent perpetration (vs. old model of preventing victimization) and to change rape supportive attitudes into healthy attitudes. Several counties in MN have passed SV prevention resolutions which commit those counties to actual changes. I encourage everyone to help in this world changing effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not part of the MSM but I blogged about this case and the strong foundation for crimes like this on Wed. in a post titled: Contrasting response to Richmond CA beating and gang rape and other reported gang rapes <a href="http://bit.ly/1V0vU2" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1V0vU2</a></p>
<p>The best news is that many states, including MN where I live are developing primary prevention plans which look at ways to prevent perpetration (vs. old model of preventing victimization) and to change rape supportive attitudes into healthy attitudes. Several counties in MN have passed SV prevention resolutions which commit those counties to actual changes. I encourage everyone to help in this world changing effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so OUTRAGED by this!  It breaks my heart, not only that this happened, but that teenagers watched &amp; did nothing to help her!!!  Why?  Was it not cool to leave &amp; report it?.. That&#039;s bs.  Our children need to know how to stand up for themselves &amp; for others.  I&#039;m doing my best to teach my 2 sons this message &amp; I teach them by showing them.  I sometimes embarrass my oldest son b/c I have broken up violent fights at his school.  I could never watch any kind of violent act w/o doing something about it.  I am deeply saddened that this young girl was victimized by the perpetrators as well as the guilty bystanders. I believe all those who watched &amp; did nothing should be charged as well as the rapists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so OUTRAGED by this!  It breaks my heart, not only that this happened, but that teenagers watched &amp; did nothing to help her!!!  Why?  Was it not cool to leave &amp; report it?.. That&#8217;s bs.  Our children need to know how to stand up for themselves &amp; for others.  I&#8217;m doing my best to teach my 2 sons this message &amp; I teach them by showing them.  I sometimes embarrass my oldest son b/c I have broken up violent fights at his school.  I could never watch any kind of violent act w/o doing something about it.  I am deeply saddened that this young girl was victimized by the perpetrators as well as the guilty bystanders. I believe all those who watched &amp; did nothing should be charged as well as the rapists.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing - I am re tweeting and posting where I can. Great perspective - and a ridiculous reminder that we are ALL the bystanders of this rape. ALL of us.

Let&#039;s take action and continue to talk about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing &#8211; I am re tweeting and posting where I can. Great perspective &#8211; and a ridiculous reminder that we are ALL the bystanders of this rape. ALL of us.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take action and continue to talk about it!</p>
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